Baseball NC One Year & Bottom Of SEC the Next (No Hoover)

[Todd4State]

I think some of it is just being in the SEC. It's the best baseball conference in America and probably the world and there is a ton of parity.

We will likely never see another LSU type dynasty from anyone any time soon like they had in the 1990's. A dynasty for a SEC team is going to be defined more like what South Carolina did in the early 2010's and recently what Vanderbilt did late in the last decade.

It's difficult to sustain because of the constant turnover every year because your team is always going to be junior laden with a couple of seniors if you are elite more than likely. That's when most baseball players are at their peak as players. Too many teams in the SEC care about the game for a team to be constantly dominant and there isn't really a "Vanderbilt football" baseball team in the league. And the SEC teams that don't care as much about baseball are the ones in the high population states that produce a ton of talent like Florida, Georgia, or Texas A&M meaning those teams could easily put together a team with local talent that can win a NC with the right coach like an O'Sullivan.

So what happens is MSU wins a NC and now everyone- the LSU's, Ole Miss's, Arkansas's, etc. are now shooting for MSU. And it's difficult to match that intensity week in and week out.
Then Ole Miss wins it...and same thing happens.
Then LSU wins it....and etc.

But if you look closely I think each team also had internal factors as well. MSU got in a situation where several coaching changes and some poor culture decisions and a poor pitching coach all caught up to them. Ole Miss was the last team in and won similar to a Fresno State but they also lost key pieces of their team and also lost some of their most talented pitchers to injury. LSU lost Wes Johnson and may have lived too much on the portal and haven't matched their success because there wasn't a Paul Skenes unicorn for them to get.

[Santiago]

I think some of it is just being in the SEC. It's the best baseball conference in America and probably the world and there is a ton of parity.

We will likely never see another LSU type dynasty from anyone any time soon like they had in the 1990's. A dynasty for a SEC team is going to be defined more like what South Carolina did in the early 2010's and recently what Vanderbilt did late in the last decade.

It's difficult to sustain because of the constant turnover every year because your team is always going to be junior laden with a couple of seniors if you are elite more than likely. That's when most baseball players are at their peak as players. Too many teams in the SEC care about the game for a team to be constantly dominant and there isn't really a "Vanderbilt football" baseball team in the league. And the SEC teams that don't care as much about baseball are the ones in the high population states that produce a ton of talent like Florida, Georgia, or Texas A&M meaning those teams could easily put together a team with local talent that can win a NC with the right coach like an O'Sullivan.

So what happens is MSU wins a NC and now everyone- the LSU's, Ole Miss's, Arkansas's, etc. are now shooting for MSU. And it's difficult to match that intensity week in and week out.
Then Ole Miss wins it...and same thing happens.
Then LSU wins it....and etc.

But if you look closely I think each team also had internal factors as well. MSU got in a situation where several coaching changes and some poor culture decisions and a poor pitching coach all caught up to them. Ole Miss was the last team in and won similar to a Fresno State but they also lost key pieces of their team and also lost some of their most talented pitchers to injury. LSU lost Wes Johnson and may have lived too much on the portal and haven't matched their success because there wasn't a Paul Skenes unicorn for them to get.

I see it as we have 3 years now of seeing something wrong, and now we do not have depth. Teams actually intentionally walk our 3 hole hitter to pitch to our cleanup hitter. We don't scare anyone.
LSU has the number 1 recruiting class. They may not dominate as in the past but they are about to jump out of the cellar.

We need a new coach. Whatever it all is, is not working.